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Death
Jun 16, 2003 15:17:22 GMT -5
Post by Knight Of Swords on Jun 16, 2003 15:17:22 GMT -5
Thats a good example cookie  Its certainly would be a scarey situation but I feel disapointed in a senseless death, but not the fearful of death. Its the disapointment that I wont be able to achieve all my goals. The disapointment that I wouldnt get a chance to say goodbye to my loved ones. But death no in specific terms I am not afraid to die. If it was a choice between me taking the bullet or a loved one then I would take that bullet. I wouldnt want that to happen as like I said I want to carry on living. I do not wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat terrified that I will die one day. Nor does it prevent me living a normal life. |
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Death
Jun 16, 2003 20:12:14 GMT -5
Post by waterspirit on Jun 16, 2003 20:12:14 GMT -5
Knights of sword is exactly right in every point that was point i was tring to get across thank knight
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Death
Jun 17, 2003 12:01:46 GMT -5
Post by Knight Of Swords on Jun 17, 2003 12:01:46 GMT -5
Your welcome Waterspirit Im glad you agree |
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Death
Jun 17, 2003 12:22:38 GMT -5
Post by LoTu on Jun 17, 2003 12:22:38 GMT -5
There are diffrent levels of fear, we dont have to be wake up in a cold sweat to fear the topic that awoke us. And maybe its that dissapointment within death that you fear, wich is an aspect of death. Thats like saying I hate all christians but not catholics.
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Death
Jun 17, 2003 13:00:13 GMT -5
Post by waterspirit on Jun 17, 2003 13:00:13 GMT -5
how is that the same we are not saying we hate anything
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Death
Jun 17, 2003 13:24:05 GMT -5
Post by Knight Of Swords on Jun 17, 2003 13:24:05 GMT -5
There is a clear difference between being disapointed in something and being afraid of it..
For example I would be disapointed if I got an F in an exam... Im not afraid that I will get it...
I would be disapointed to die before my time I wouldnt be fearful of it.
Nor am I saying I am totally fearless because I do fear things...
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Death
Jun 17, 2003 15:11:57 GMT -5
Post by LoTu on Jun 17, 2003 15:11:57 GMT -5
But it is the aspect of dissapoint withing the act of death that you fear. (you fear the dissapointment that comes with the act of dying)
Waterspirit: Try and keep up. I made that example to try and give an imgae on my point. By saying you fear the dissapointment of death but not death itself is like saying you hate (or fear if you want) christians but not catholics (catholics are christians). By saying that i wanted to demonstrate how you cant fear dissapointment without fearing death because its an aspect of death. just like hating christians but not catholics cant be done cause catholics or christians...
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Death
Jun 17, 2003 15:26:18 GMT -5
Post by Knight Of Swords on Jun 17, 2003 15:26:18 GMT -5
Not at all disappointment of not achieving goals is nothing to do with death specificly.. death would be a reason for not achieving the goals.. like your own or other peoples actions or inactions.. that doesnt mean that I fear other people.
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Death
Jun 17, 2003 19:52:16 GMT -5
Post by waterspirit on Jun 17, 2003 19:52:16 GMT -5
exactly knights you are saying what he doesnt obviously doesnt understand
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Death
Jun 18, 2003 11:31:39 GMT -5
Post by LoTu on Jun 18, 2003 11:31:39 GMT -5
I understand completly his point of view. It just so happens to be the opposite that you guys dont understand my point of view and thats how this debate was created. To tell you the truth, I jsut created this whole everyone is scared of death theory in ten seconds cause i wanted to see ppls reactions to a new material. This subject touchs everyone and i noticed that people here are unable to comprehend the materail I presented and are unable to look beyound ones own beliefs and teachings to see the subject at hand.
...Death is such a vast subject with many diffrent aspecrs and possibilitys that it touches every emotion and feeling that we have. By saying you fear the dissapointment that you would find in death your saying that you fear death. For others it may be the lost in death they fear. Etc...
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Death
Jun 18, 2003 11:57:47 GMT -5
Post by Knight Of Swords on Jun 18, 2003 11:57:47 GMT -5
LoTu I understand your view point fully.. in fact I thank you for sharing your view point because although I dont personally agree, its always enjoyable to have someone challenge my beliefs. I also fully accept that some people are afraid of death but I hope my case has proven not everybody is. Thank you for bringing this debate |
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Death
Jun 18, 2003 12:51:54 GMT -5
Post by Freya on Jun 18, 2003 12:51:54 GMT -5
There you go again! You are assuming that we don't understand what you're saying. Well, sorry dear.. I do understand and I entirely dislike the fact of how you tend to treat our opinions.
Precisely.. it touches differents emotions.. so it is possible that is touches the NON-fearful one. Do you not see? We are allowed to feat what we think will hurt us. Such as most children, believe there are monsters in their room and until they realize that the dark and monsters do not hurt them, they'll fear it. I, personally, know that death will not hurt me but create a new beginning. I let that stand as is! Disregard it all you want.. but you'll simply be categorizing yourself as you have been doing with us!
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Death
Jun 18, 2003 15:14:35 GMT -5
Post by LoTu on Jun 18, 2003 15:14:35 GMT -5
if you understand then you must agree with me on some note. that in one way or another we all fear death or at least an aspect of death.
...I think we should just agree to disagree here...
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Death
Jun 18, 2003 15:30:20 GMT -5
Post by Freya on Jun 18, 2003 15:30:20 GMT -5
I agree that some people fear it, yes.. or a part of it.. but for me to fear it?.. Negative.
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Death
Jun 18, 2003 17:23:14 GMT -5
Post by LoTu on Jun 18, 2003 17:23:14 GMT -5
I can live with that.
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