Death

[Knight Of Swords]

Mr. said:

I want to call each and everyone one of you liars! We all fear death! if it were to come to your door this very instant and take you, you would not be willing to leave! (sorry for being so blunt, but i had to say it)

Mr Cookie there is a difference between wanting something to happen and being afraid that it will...

I dont want to die but thats not because I am afraid of death.. I dont want to die because there is too much I need to do in this life before I am willing to go.

If death as you say turned up at my door this very instant I wouldnt be afraid to go I would just ask for some more time so that I may continue enjoying this life.
But at the same time if there was a worthy cause or reason for me to go than I would. I would stand in a position of reason and not fear.

So please do not label me a liar because you do not understand the difference between being afraid of something and not wanting it to happen.

When we are enjoying the light of day do we fear that night will come? or do we accept that it is an inevitable part of the cycle whilst wanting the sun to shine? I have lived before I will again... whats to fear?

[LoTu]

If you were foresee your death, and know of it comming, and to know that everything is over and then nothing will ingulf your very being and that existence will end for you.The cold feeling that would shiver through-out your body is fear, and no-one would embrasse that feeling...Very few people can understand the deep emotional take death takes on those who see its arrival...Many ppl cant even accept when others die, how can you possibly think you could accept your own death? Death is not something to be reasoned with or timed, its the final act of life. Its the end of everything. And the end of most things is never a good thing. To fear what will happen to those you love when your gone is, to fear the fact that you would no longer be able to do the things you enjoy, to fear the uncertain...That is to fear death...

[Freya]

I want to call each and everyone one of you liars! We all fear death!

I do not see how someone who knows me personally and physically.. can sit there and call me a liar. It is unbelievable. You may know me out of this site and internet.. but that does not mean you know me to the point of telling what my fears are and not. I fear what I fear. If I am able to tell all of you that I do not fear death, then it is so. Perhaps you fear it.. but I grew up and was taught that death is not something to fear. "It will happen either way.. " quoted by the best man I've ever known.. my father. So then, will you also sit there and call my father a liar? I highly doubt that. But because I am in your age rank, does not mean we fear the same thing. So please, for respect of your friends (me and others) please refrain yourself from calling us liars and naming our "supposed fears".

There are only two things I fear... heights and being alone. Nowhere in there does it say "death".

[LoTu]

I may call who i wish what i wish... I think everyone fears death, its the one thing we have little control over... What a person is taught and what a person goes out to do is very often diffrent things...

[Freya]

I may call who i wish what i wish

You dare say what? It is true that you have the right to say as you wish due to freedom of speech.. but we also have the right of having respect. And I will not tolerate anyone, even you, calling me a liar on any matter. I may be a b*tch, I may very well be stubborn, but in no way am I a liar. I fear what I fear.. and that is final. You do not choose what I fear, you do not control what or who I am. If you cannot live by that, then so be it. I am not about to sit here and accept someone to name-call me or anyone else on this board. I am a staff member and I, as anyone else on this board, deserves and simply asks for respect.

[Knight Of Swords]

Well said Freya.

Everybody fears something it is a standard in life.. call it fear or being nervous of something it is the same thing.

However the difference is when you face it and accept that there is actually nothing to be afraid of, that you can handle the worse that can happen, then that fear ends.

That is why I can say that I am not afraid of death because I know that I can handle that condition. It is enevitable fact the second your born one of the only constants in life is that you will die. Accept it or not.

Yes I do care about people that I would leave behind and always will. But Im not afraid what will happen to them when I die.. because I have faith that they are more than capable of handling it. That after a time of morning that may well come with losing a friend or loved one they will and can handle it. Life moves on and if they are that close and important to my life then I will see them again.

Also I am not afraid that the things I have fun doing will end.. whats the point? Live in the moment and enjoy it for what it is because you never know when it will end.

I do not deny that I have a sense of self-preservation that when faced with a potentially hazardous sitation my pulse increases and I get cautious. Thats not fear of death thats a base condition that says be careful because this life that you enjoy so much might end. Like I said before I am not afraid of death but I dont want to die yet.

You might be afraid to die Mr Cookie but please dont assume that you have the right to place your fears on anybody else.

(Freya you can be stubborn as is your nature, and you also are very honest and not afraid to tell people the truth as you see it.. but you have never been a b*tch. A b*tch doesnt care about anyone elses feelings apart from her own.. you do care.)

[Teej]

I will be completely "blunt" with you, too. I DON'T fear death, I welcome it. If it were to walk up to my front door I wouldn't struggle as you say. I really do not fear death, I'm being completely honest. It's not something that I'm trying to look cool with, it's just that I'm one of those people who really couldn't care less.

[LoTu]

Freya, respect is not a right, its a privilige, but the right of speech and the right of belief is. If i choose to belive that everyone fears death then that is my right, you can argue the fact all you want, but that won't change the charter of rights. Nik, Ive know you long enough and im still not sure how honest you are, there is very very few people I trust completly...

Teej, If that is how you look at death, then you haven't grasped its meaning and potential. That is my belief...

Knight Of Swords, I'll be very honest, I didn't read what you had to say cause it was to long, Id rather you get to the point then to ramble on.


...I belive that everyone has a fear of death, wether its a phobia or just a fear is a diffrent matter. Maybe by calling everyone a liar wasn't the right approach, but the meaning behind any appoach would have been the same: I think we all fear death to point. That fear and uncertainty is in all of us. I belive that, it is my right. You can agree or dissagree all you want.Complain all you want. It makes no diffrence...

[Knight Of Swords]

Knight said:

You might be afraid to die Mr Cookie but please dont assume that you have the right to place your fears on anybody else.

Straight to the point for you Cookie? I wrote that response not to ramble but to explain my view point. A view point that you choose not to pay attention to.

Your right respect is a privilage one that should be given freely until that person does something to loose it.

[LoTu]

I created a theory where everyone is affraid to die. I have the complete right to my theories and assumptions...

btw, respect should be earned my friend, not given.

[Knight Of Swords]

Indeed my friend your theory was a sound one and you had a right to make it.

However a theory should be available to be altered or changed given evidence that disproves the original hypothesis.

I believe from the evidence presented you may like to re-evaluate your theory given other peoples beliefs on death.

As always that is your choice

[LoTu]

Calling everyone a liar may have been a harsh approach, but look at all the response i got, and how pointless they wore. People only argued because i called them liars, no one challenged my theory.

...We all have a fear of death, were scared that someone we know will die, that we will die suddenly. The only people that dont fear death or the suicidal (andeven then many do). The levels of fear may vary, but the fear is always present.

I won't change my theory, but i do challenge others to creat their own upon this subject...(ps guys, a fear and a phobia aren't the same thing and diffrent levels of fear exist)

[Teej]

I've grasped the fact of death. I do not fear it at all, what I DO fear is the pain of losing someone or the pain that can LEAD UP to death. But death itself does not scare me.

[Knight Of Swords]

Mr cookie did you even read the other peoples responses?

They were not pointless they explained other peoples view point on death. Your theory as you put it is that everyone is afraid of death. If you choose to read the responses you will find that this is not the case. Does that not challenge your theory?

Fear at its core is the inability to handle a situation.. That thought that says "if this happen how will I ever be able to cope". Belief in yourself is the best cure to truely know that whatever happens "I'll handle it." I know I can handle the implications of death.

Whilst its not pleasent and it will be painful to see someone face death. I know that I will be able to handle it. Therefore I do not fear it happening.

[LoTu]

Let me put my theory into action by giving an example:
If a man were to walk up to you with a gun and point it to your head, would you not be scared. Or would you just smale and ask him nicely to pull the trigger.

...I hate to imagine this or say it for that matter, but its the only one i could thnik of where you would feel no pain.

...those who graspe the meaning of death, fear it.

...the evidence that has been supplied to me demonstrate that people say they dont fear death, but have no proof to back up there point.