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Post by Nemesis on Jul 18, 2002 6:20:58 GMT -5
Anti-depressiva like Prozac, Zoloft or Paxil work because people want them to work. That's the conclusion from an american research, outa which came that swallowing placebo-pills are as effective as anti-depressiva for fighting a depression.
American psychologist Kirsch compared a group of persons who swallowed anti-depresiva to a group which swallowed sugar-pills. Both groups progressed almost the same at the 'less-depressive-progress-scale'; 20% progress for the medicine-group against 16% for the placebo-group.
Though sugar influences the making of endorfine (which causes you to feel happy), I think this is a pretty good example from 'mind over body', scientifically proven ;D
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Post by Teej on Jul 19, 2002 0:35:36 GMT -5
I always found that my anti-depressant is writing poems or lyrics. I can write whatever I want to get my emotions out. Hey, whatever works  Teej |
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Post by Nemesis on Jul 20, 2002 5:31:56 GMT -5
The thing is so simple. Whatever you think what makes ye happy is a anti-depresiva.
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Post by Teej on Jul 22, 2002 12:15:32 GMT -5
Yeah. They use the same thing for sicknesses and stuff like that, and it works.
Teej
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Post by CatBreath on Jul 22, 2002 15:17:33 GMT -5
yeah but not all the time
depends on the dude and the condition
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Post by Nemesis on Jul 24, 2002 5:52:11 GMT -5
It even worked on people with Parkinson's desease.. pretty impressing 
When people don't know its a placebo, it works best.
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Post by CatBreath on Jul 24, 2002 8:52:29 GMT -5
lol aint that the whole point?
u cant go to someone and tell him
"listen dude... its a placibo.. now its not really gonna do something but dont you think about that mmkay?"
i do wonder why that doesnt work ;D
works on parkinson?
doesnt that mean that the dude didnt really have the desease?
or those it mean that the brain is powerful/stupid enough to fool itself?
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Post by Nemesis on Jul 24, 2002 9:31:38 GMT -5
I think last thing.. bcuz when you keep telling urself you feel sick you eventually GET sick. Try it. It works, just trick yourself (and yes, you know you are fooling urself! ;D)
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Post by CatBreath on Jul 24, 2002 9:37:58 GMT -5
yes but what when ppl are told that they are sick?
they are sick before they know it...
its not always the case
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Post by Nemesis on Jul 24, 2002 9:43:30 GMT -5
my example was the opposite of placebo MEDICINEs.. 
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Post by CatBreath on Jul 24, 2002 9:48:20 GMT -5
didnt see that...
but i think my point still stands
its not always the case
it sometimes is
but not always
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Post by Nemesis on Jul 24, 2002 10:35:28 GMT -5
well you still didnt gave any proof.. i did.. 
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Post by CatBreath on Jul 24, 2002 11:19:47 GMT -5
yes but what when ppl are told that they are sick? they are sick before they know it... |
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Post by Nemesis on Jul 25, 2002 11:02:54 GMT -5
Ofcourse you are sick before you know.. its bcuz you cannot interpreted very slight symptoms sheesh.. You gotta say (one way or another) the placebo works.. otherwise it wont work. That means, the opposite is also possible.
Hee hee that would mean voodoo may be possible ;D
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Post by CatBreath on Jul 25, 2002 17:52:57 GMT -5
actually thats the root for all magick...
am i wrong here?
and yeah nem thats what i said!
sometimes it works (if u believe it will + depends on the desease + depends on the dude) and sometimes it does not work
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