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Post by LoTu on Jun 15, 2003 20:22:53 GMT -5
I suggest these post be taken away for it creates diffrent ranks amoung the poster and I think we would benefit from mods point of views as a person more then that of a mod. The idea of mod privilidges will always be ones head and influence there posts...This isn't a game where the people that show a bigger interrest should get "leveled up"...Im pretty sure the boards do need someone to regulate them and make sure members follow "the rules"...My opinoin on mods is negative, id rather they be equals...
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Post by Teej on Jun 15, 2003 22:14:09 GMT -5
I consider myself equal to everyone at this site, I thought all of you did, too. I think mods are a good idea simply because it takes a few duties off of the admins. But if some people think we don't need them, then I'm fine with that, it doesn't really matter to me.
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Post by AngelisX on Jun 16, 2003 8:35:52 GMT -5
As a member of the Hacking community, I understand your point of view. People I'm around always have a problem with cascading structures like these. Why? Because it gives certain people priviledges others don't have.
This BBS is particular is kinda' cool in that it's Admin functions allow the owners to tweak and change what Mods, Global Mods and Admins can and can't do. Generally these abilities are given to people who have been around for quite a while, giving them an edge at knowing how this place works.
A Mod's job is simply to help out a little more in the fields he or she is quite adept at aswell as help keep the peace. This forum is quite large compared to some others I've visited, so Mods have really become necessary here. It alleviates some of the workload of the Admins.
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Post by Knight Of Swords on Jun 16, 2003 12:39:35 GMT -5
I agree with you TK mods are useful to the site.
I have never felt like mods and even admins are better than the normal poster.. just they have a job to do to make sure that the site remains enjoyable and functioning as it should.
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Post by LoTu on Jun 16, 2003 14:18:22 GMT -5
I feel is if the Admins have being doing a great job and that there is no need for mods. I also think the boards are smalle enoguh to go without mods, and if any problems occur im sure it wont be hard to notify an admin. The mod seems to be a ranking system wich i disaprove of.
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Post by waterspirit on Jun 16, 2003 19:32:41 GMT -5
thats only like lokking at the glass half emety i think mods are a good idea to closes some of the dead ideas
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Post by AngelisX on Jun 16, 2003 22:26:06 GMT -5
Being a Mod isn't a part of any ranking system. Nothing you do will get you Mod status unless it is needed. It's earned, but sparsely distributed.
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Post by Nemesis on Jun 17, 2003 8:03:33 GMT -5
Got little to add, TK said almost all.
Quote from our disclaimer:
As you can read, everybody is responsible for his/her own posts as in a way of content. Mod's are simply here for administrative purposes only, and not to boss people arround. As for the last thing, neither are admins.
If there still are people who dont behave, they'll be warned, publically or through a pm, depending on the severness of the act.
The word status is used several times throughout posting, by admins, mods and members. I -and hopefully others- used this word just as a part of the english language, not explicit for its meaning.
I dont see a reason to get rid of the mods.
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Post by LoTu on Jun 17, 2003 12:06:15 GMT -5
It doesn't seem like theres much reason to keep them. I see a big diffrence and how mods post and how members post. Id like to be able to see someone as an equal and hear there point of view not "As a mod"
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Post by waterspirit on Jun 17, 2003 12:33:27 GMT -5
they type on a keyboard just like everybody u are blowing the whole thing out of poriportion
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Post by LoTu on Jun 17, 2003 14:57:35 GMT -5
You see kid, If i say there creating a ranking system where mods have certain priviledges normal posters dont have, then this advantage will be in their head and can change their ideals/opinions/reaction when it come time for them to post...Your annalogy is like saying a saying a captain can pull the trigger of a gun better then a cadet. Its not what they do, but how they do it.
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Post by Knight Of Swords on Jun 17, 2003 15:03:04 GMT -5
Can you give us an example where a mod has taken advantage of those privilages for more than for the benifit of the entire board?
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Post by AngelisX on Jun 17, 2003 15:37:04 GMT -5
Alright... LoTu, Mr. Cookie... whatever it is that you officially call yourself. This is the suggestions forum. You suggested that Mods weren't worth having around this board. An Admin, Nemesis, has told you his official standpoint on the subject which is that Mods are required around here to keep things in working order. Unless you can suggest reasons as to why these Mods are unnecessary, generally, an opinion won't simply change.
You're frequenting this BBS is voluntary. If you don't like how the board is structured, you express your opinion about it. That's fine and dandy, which you've done. Unfortunately, after it's been reviewed by an owner and declined, your personal views on how Mods are higher than you are irrelevant. Mods are required to help keep the peace.
The irrevokable fact at hand here is that the Mods at this board are doing an excellent job at only using the abilities given to them by the Administration when it is utterly needed. I applaud them at their work. As you may also know, I'm a former Admin of this board myself and, when the time is right and the need be there, I hope to return to that position.
So, what's my point: Being an ex-Admin here and knowing the mechanics of this board, the current Mods are working very well at what they do. Nemesis has the right to accept of decline requests and that right was exerced. If you can prove to him, perhaps, that Mods are really not necessary, then he may reconsider, otherwise, the simple fact that you don't like to deal with authority, what seems to be the problem here wether you'll admit it or not (that's up to you), will not change the eventuality of things.
Now, I hope I'm not getting ahead of myself here, Admins and Mods alike, however I felt drawn to put this in writting in order to put fact into perspective. I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds and, please, deal with me as you wish after this, however I felt this all needed to be said. I feel a certain resposibility towards our Mods, for obvious reasons.
And finally, LoTu, it's not that I dislike you or anything. I'm just trying to show you why these Mods are going to stay and how come they won't just go away. That's my story and, proverbially, I'm stickin' to it.
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Post by waterspirit on Jun 17, 2003 19:43:01 GMT -5
cookie lotu whatever can u really give us and example of the mods power going to their heads b/c if u cant then you are just saying things to be noticed
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Post by Teej on Jun 17, 2003 19:52:13 GMT -5
The board gets bigger and bigger. Sooner or later we WILL need mods. Since we already have them then there's no point getting rid of them until then.
I agree with what your saying, mods don't seem like that much of a necessity as of now. But it's just a matter of time until they are needed again.
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