Tarot

[Freya]

Ultimately to know your path doesn't mean that you have to walk it

Sorry dear, I found a flaw in your theory, YET AGAIN... the only way you would not walk your path is if you knew it.. when if you never would of done tarot readings, you never would of known what was to come.
So that would change it if you didn't like it. Which is wrong to do for it can totally change your futur and that may turn out worse than what was the reason at the beginning!

[Chaos_Childe]

That is why you need to be careful as to whether it is a path that should be walked or not...

For example it may fortell a marital dispute caused by lack of honesty... It may even say it is lack of honesty over financial matters....

This will then give you a choice to be honest with your partner and avoid this dispute to begin with. Something that is logical to look at, but may be clouded by your own thoughts at that time.

This is one of the useful thing about the Tarot it allows for self reflection.

I am not disagreeing with your arguement as far as in some situations doing something may lead to worse things to happen. It is therefore always the choice of the individual as to whether they wish to act or not. One of life's many gambles.

[Bennu]

Unfortunately I know the biggest flaw in both your positions.

Sometimes the future the cards see is unavoidable, if you know it or not will not make a difference. Try as you might to fight against it, things will happen.

But don't fret! These are not necessarily the bad events/futures, just solid unavoidable circumstances.

I have frequently encountered unusal readings like these. For example with a friend of mine we did several readings with several different decks which all ended up with the cards taking the same positions. As you can expect my friend was a little freaked. We repeatedly both shuffled the decks yet the exact same layout occurred time after time. The readings only began to change after he accepted what the cards had said, which in this case was a bad situation. But after accepting the bad news, the readings showed how the bad situation would lead to a much more positive event.

[Freya]

well, Carl, you proved a flaw within a flaw, however that works! You just did!! Then again, I'm not one to practice tarot..so I'm surprised I found what I did within James' post!! Got to give me that much!!

[Bennu]

Indeed the logic behind your point was sound. ;D

But is doing something to change a bad situation you know about wrong?

Or is it merely the way you choose to change it?

The same things could be said about premonitions and precognitive dreams. Most people don't choose to have those. Those just happen.

Any form of divination comes with the responsibility of choosing what to do with the knowledge.

[Freya]

Yes but what if that bad situation helps you in the futur?

[Bennu]

As I said any form of divination comes with the responsibility of choosing what to do with the knowledge.

If you take that fact seriously, you will do further readings testing the posibilities that are brought forth by the original bad situation. Including readings checking for good or bad results if you change it.

If you ignore the responsibility you will act blindly, and may cause untold harm, or discover untold success. But then again that may have been how you would have acted without seeing the cards.

[Freya]

Alright, that's understandable and makes sense!!

[Fuzzbuddy]

cool. didn't think about tarot and dreams too much. I love tarot. Ilove dreams. makes sense really.

a guy i met once said that he wants to manifest a positive only Tarot deck....I like the idea. not sure how is would work....off to bed. will dream about it maybe =)

"...and out flew a bumbllebee and a butterfly"

[Fuzzbuddy]

you can know your path and not walk it...

the icecream is upstairs. my bed is in the otehr room. but to hell with intuitions i can fuck my life up if i want...

sorry kinda picking up old fag ends...didn't read everything here yet....

[Freya]

fuzz, it makes alot of sense to one that wants to pay attention, of course!

Dreams are easy to understand and even easier to control ... just takes ALOT of practice!!

[Fuzzbuddy]

hey man, I'm getting better. had some real fucking vivid dreams recently. not really any fucking but hey. Nightmares...waht the fuck? why can't we or don't we or choose not to see them as cool cartoons or something?

can remember really vivid dreams for months/years. like being a libra (just adlibbing know so i dunno...blah...) erm i had a kinda yin yang dream when i was young. more cool than not. but 1/2 nightmayor and more than 1/2 cool shit. it involved rolling cylinders...or balls or something. yes balls. not bollocks...erm...and they would be big or smooth and go across or bounce gracefully or br fuckig tiny and shitty and take ages and blah to get across. and it would keepswitching like i would always want the good stuff. and physically in the dream although i was in say a seperate view point/dimension as i wsa very ocnnected to it as well somehoe...er,...yeah.

man that's cool.

also had a dream after seeing the movie Treasure Island that i was being chased down for a treasure map or soething and scared by the nastiest placebo in the world the black spot...and hid in the bath. got found. woke up.

Ever realise your dreaming and sleeping and i nthe drema your sleeping too?

or start falling off the side of teh world into nothing....or dream you went to school naked...that that you jsut went to take a piss and got there in time and wake up stinking cos you is in da piss?

just wondered...Sick Man Fraud...hmmm lets inject some of that there cocaine mmm yumbo!

m other complex my arse...
penis envy...depends on the penis.

man that was his sick shit he cold ddealwith so invented "prejection" and preojected it.

so the other day was in Camden, London and my mate who's kinda intop magic and stuff said lookie lookie or soemthing and there in the wondow was a sigmund freud little plastic figure thing.

man that's kind wyrd.

[Freya]

Nick, I've said this to you before.. and I'll say it again..

You are person who has very WEIRD dreams.. I've never met anyone who can dream that way.. not that it's a bad thing though...

But about the miniature image of that Doctor Fraud.. that's crazy.. he may be good or something but COME ON!!